Thursday, May 03, 2007

According to a post on AnimeOnDVD, Geneon has sent out a mailer with release information for Saiunkoku DVD 1 (with optional box). As a result we will no longer distribute season 1 or season 2.
This does create an unanticipated situation with respect to the DVDSubber scripts, since the total price of the R1s is expected to be more than the price of the remaining R2s, but the first R1 will be released before the last R2, and the release of the first R1 is our timeframe for stopping distribution of the DVDSubber scripts. If you have been picking up the R2 DVDs, don't worry, we will get you the scripts so you don't have to change horses in mid-stream and end up spending more than you were planning to. For everyone else, Geneon's disc 1 comes out at the end of July, and it looks like it's going to be a 9 disc release. Please support them so they know what kind of anime to finance in the future.

67 Comments:

Anonymous said...

About a two-three months turnaround time from "announcement" to release. <3

Anonymous said...

If that site says so, then yeah...But why isn't it listed on Geneon's site or on Anime News Network? @.@

Well, thanks for all your hard work and effort. It was a good run.

Geneon's dub for Kyou Kara Maou is pretty good, so I'm hopeful that they won't slaughter the series.

Heather said...

But if it's just season one licensed, why stop subbing season 2? I'm grateful for all you've done, but I was hoping We Suck would do all of Season 2. I love your subs. ;_;

Anonymous said...

Damn, that sucsk. I was hoping for Season 2 subs...not sure why you're dropping it when they're going to release season 1 :(

TomS said...

I think it is a premonition that they will most likely license the 2nd season after the first is done being released, it could also be they consider the two to be one anime, which essentially it is.

I respect your decision to halt subbing as sad as it is to see a good show go unsubbed. Very good to see a good show licensed though.

Nameraka said...

Nice turnaround - I can enjoy Saiunkoku DVD quality soon. Hopefully S2 will be acquired as well.

Thank you for subbing S1!

Anonymous said...

You guys really DO SUCK! =)

Anonymous said...

Thanks for all your hard work on the show. And I think you are right to stop subbing it though I will miss your work. You gave great cultural notes.

Anonymous said...

Pffff.
I love japan voices & hate dubs.
Thanks for your previous releases, I really enjoy the subs.

Anonymous said...

Um, Geneon releases are bilingual, so the Japanese track will be on there. Licensed =! dub only.

Anonymous said...

why your guys are not going to sub anymore we love this series

Anonymous said...

i'm really sad now considering this was a fav. series of mine. only season 1 was licensed but i respect your decision to not sub season 2. thanks much for your great subs.

Anonymous said...

At the end of July? ANN lists the release at the end of August.

Torgen said...

AOD says July 24th.

Anonymous said...

It IS mentioned on ANN. Apparently the dub title is going to be "The Story of Saiunkoku" not "Tale of Saiunkoku" or "Saiunkoku Monogatari"

Anonymous said...

You guys really do SUCK! =)

Anonymous said...

I'm really sad that you won't be subbing season 2. I don't mean to point this out, but just because Season 1 is licensed does not mean that Season 2 will be licensed. It depends on sales.

Anonymous said...

If you're feeling underworked and want to pick up another series, I suggest Kami-chama Karin, just for the confusion potential.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for subbing as far as you did. Geneon licencing it is not too bad. They always do a pretty decent job with the translations and subs (aside from the KKM title, no idea how they came up with that).

Anonymous said...

if it wasn't for you guys I would have never realized what a gem this series was. I can't wait for the dvd releases to catch up to where you guys subbed

Anonymous said...

4 episodes / disc... for $30.

This is why I so rarely purchase anime. If the anime industry is going to whine about fansubbing, they should start by at least pretending to be competitive.

Anonymous said...

Actually, 5eps a disc, but... why are R1 discs $30? Because anime is expensive. In Japan, Saiunkoku is released 3 episodes a disc for $60. The anime industry whines about fansubs on BOTH sides of the Pacific because A) they are ILLEGAL, b) BOTH markets are losing sales to digital piracy. Anime is expensive to make, so you can't expect it to be released on DVD without something in there to try and recoup costs. And even at that $30 a disc? It takes years to break even on many titles. Plus, even if they lowered prices to try and "compete" with an illegal activity, the person using price as an excuse not to buy is not likely to suddenly be inclined to spend money because a disc is $10 less. You can still get it for "free!" Almost all of the R1 companies are run by fans. If they wanted to be a real business, they would have cut their losses and closed years ago because anime is not that profitable. People are trying to sell to a non-increasing market, that's shrinking due to digital piracy. And did you know that some anime titles don't even make that much $$ in JAPAN and US sales help them?? Depending on what sells well, we'll see that kind of anime being made more in the future. There are so many moe shows because fans actually buy them. But hey, if you want to hoard your "free anime" on your computer and call yourself a fan, go ahead. Gross. (And no, I am not an industry rep, but I know people who work for anime companies - they're just regular people, most not paid that well, and they have to take SO MUCH CRAP from fans.)

Anonymous said...

It's true that anime is expensive in Japan. You're totally right. But at the same time, anime has an excellent market in Japan; it's a very competitive industry but it's also got a built-in fanbase so they can keep their prices high.

The American anime industry has yet to break in. I, for one, would certainly buy more anime (I NEVER download licenced series, I just stop watching the series when it's licened, unless it goes on sale or start on Adult Swim) if the price was dropped ten dollars per DVD or the episode count was raised.

I don't really care who runs the companies. They're still buisinesses, and they still need to make money the same way every sensible company makes money--by selling more. Many, many people are put off of purchasing anime by its high price, not just the ones who have seen the series already; it takes a very, very loyal fan to buy something for between 1 and 200 dollars when they already own it.

Manga companies are doing a decent business now because the price of a book is not exorbitant, and because their distribution is very high. The fact that the production costs are lower is no excuse.

I'm not talking about your buddies in the industry, unless your buddies run the big-name industries. I'm talking about the executives. They need to do some serious consideration and ethinographic research if they want to really dent the market. Until then, they can't expect my business unless I happen on something I can afford.

Anonymous said...

I appreciate the well thought out response. I realized after I posted that this could turn into a nasty flamewar, I am glad that it has not.


I think the cheaper collections coming out these days are a step in the right direction, as far as price goes. What BV USA is doing will turn them a profit, because lack of sales will be made up for by not spending the cost on dubbing. However, I don't wish sub-only releases to become the dorm because dubs make the market so much wider.

There's an interesting thread on this kind of thing going on at the animeondvd R1 forum, post "Why do R1 anime companies hate us?" You may find it interesting reading. At least one industry head has posted a few times.

Anonymous said...

Technically, just because they license the first season that doesn't mean the second season is licensed. Tsubasa Chronicles season 2 was still fansubbed even though the first season was licensed. There was no note of season 2 being licensed. Then again, there was a long period in between.

Was hoping for at least season 2, but ah well :3 thanks for everything :D

Anonymous said...

I am not sure if I am happy with the news that Season 1 is licensed. It depends if Geneon will release only the dub version, in which case I will not be buying it because I dislike dubs. But if they also release it in Japanese with english subtitles, then I will gladly buy it.

Anonymous said...

thanks for the subbing of the first
season hope you will reconsider the
second season subbing if not thanks
anyway everyone did a great job

Anonymous said...

"I am not sure if I am happy with the news that Season 1 is licensed. It depends if Geneon will release only the dub version, in which case I will not be buying it because I dislike dubs. But if they also release it in Japanese with english subtitles, then I will gladly buy it."

I don't know of a single R1 release that doesn't include the JP audio and English subtitles...

Anonymous said...

If Geneon does license season 2, I won't be able to buy it as there are no stores for anime DVDs near where I live.. But if Geneon doesn't license season 2, is there any chance you guys will sub it? =D

Setsuna said...

that's really bad because there's no absolute way for me to get it(
I was hoping you will make DVDSubber's scripts for S2 at least...
(I hope it's still possible?)

Anonymous said...

Another reason for possible second season subbing is the fact that the two seasons are considered SEPERATE! Just like Tsubasa as mentioned before. It's even listed seperately in animenewsnetwork.com. But I'm not really too sure on how or why that is since the Tsubasa series is all mixed into one. Possibly since the second season is considered a sequel?

But its your call :D

Anonymous said...

I don't know why people keep asking for season 2 to be subbed by We Suck, cuz it's just not gonna happen. They're never going to reconsider, so stop wasting your time guys. You should start asking other groups that don't respect licenses, to do it instead of asking a group that flat out said no they won't sub it.

Anonymous said...

Well just wanted to say thanks for subbing season 1. I understand that you do not wish to continue.

But to everyone else who is complaining: "if the show is as awesome as we all think it is, I am sure someone will sub it eventually..."

Anonymous said...

Why must you stop subs for season 2... According to your comment this Dvd release means the series is subbed so it cant be licensed anymore... Why the heck should "We Suck" care... Death note got lincesed, Viz Media knew that this anime was being subbed but was not against it being subbed... Their statement was that they trust that thses people watching these subs will eventually buy the Dvd releases.... with that in mind u should continue subbing season 2.!

Anonymous said...

To add to that... Don't you think think that more people would buy the Dvd if they knew what they were buying... Same concept for Death Note.

Anonymous said...

Better than wasting ur time on lame anime like Rocket Girl w/e......

arcImpulse said...

Why must you stop subs for season 2... According to your comment this Dvd release means the series is subbed so it cant be licensed anymore... Why the heck should "We Suck" care... Death note got lincesed, Viz Media knew that this anime was being subbed but was not against it being subbed... Their statement was that they trust that thses people watching these subs will eventually buy the Dvd releases.... with that in mind u should continue subbing season 2.!

Then why did Viz acquire a license to distribute it as a pay-to-buy or pay-to-rent download?

To add to that... Don't you think think that more people would buy the Dvd if they knew what they were buying... Same concept for Death Note.

Except that Saiunkoku 2nd Season is a continuation of Saiunkoku 1st Season, so it is likely that Geneon's target audience would have already known what they are buying. (And another thing - even in the event that Geneon has not licensed Saiunkoku 2nd Season, I think they will consider the sales numbers that they achieve for the 1st Season R1 DVDs as a significant factor when they license Season 2 for R1.)

Also, the Death Note manga has been a top-seller in the U.S. (AnimeNewsNetwork will be quite glad to let you know that). Not to mention there are two live-action movies based on it. Given the backing that Death Note has, do you think people would not know what they're buying?

Better than wasting ur time on lame anime like Rocket Girl w/e......

What you think is "lame", others may think is "awesome".

Anonymous said...

Id like to say that though i wish you would reconcider subbing season 2 till its licened atlest, that sence this isnt a job for you and that your doing this becase you like too, that what you decide fine by me:) Ive enjoied your subs of season 1 and had relly looked forword to your relises of seaosn 2.:) thansk for your hard work and great subs!!:)

Anonymous said...

Thanks for doing a wonderful job on season 1 and ep 1 of season 2. I will definitely purchase the DVDs when they come out, unless they turn into 4Kids and butcher it like 4Kids did for One Piece... Luckily, Geneon has not really disappointed me too much.

As for those concerned with the $30 retail, that is retail price. You can probably find it for $17-22 if you know where to look. I get most of my Anime from DVD Planet. Overstock.com is another good one. There are other sites to look at as well. You just need to shop around.

Anonymous said...

You compare death note to Saiunkoku Monogatari.... Please it wont even acheive 1/5 of the sales that death note has... As you said death note is a hit.. Everyone knows about death note... Does everyone know about... Saiunkoku Monogatari...hmmmm

Anonymous said...

Look at you downloads for rocket girls... How about look at these downloads http://bt.saiyaman.info/?search=rocket+girls&cat=0...You've release the first episode have there been much "i want more" remarks.

Anonymous said...

...They're never going to reconsider, so stop wasting your time guys. You should start asking other groups that don't respect licenses, to do it instead of asking a group that flat out said no they won't sub it.

Well, stop subbing after it's licensed by Geneon doesn't mean respecting licenses imo. It's illegal to sub after all if you get technical. I don't see the differences subbing it before or after licensing...

Anonymous said...

It's called ethics.

Anonymous said...

True.... You have a point.. This group doesn't relize subbing period is illegal.. What is the difference after it gets licenced?

Proto said...

It's called fansubber's ethics. The whole purpose of fansubbing is to increase awareness of the existance of anime outside Japan. Once the potential buyers and the potential sellers are aware that a certain series might be enjoyable/profitable for both on them, the purpose of the fansubbers is fulfilled. Then they can move on with another series and repeat the process. Doing otherwise would go against the whole purpose of fansubbing.

that said I think this is an excellent chance to practice my Japanese ^_^;

Anonymous said...

No...Your totally wrong... Why would fansubbers care if they make a profit or not. They either do it for fun or its fans. Thats why some don't stop subbing even after a serioes has been subbed.

Anonymous said...

Some groups don't sub anything that has an official English release announced, regardless of region. It just so happens that the majority of the official English subbed releases happens when there is a license by an R1 company. The R2 DVDs of Saikano come to mind as something with English subtitles that people shouldn't have fansubbed.

Torgen said...

Anime companies making money on shows we like means those companies make more shows we like. That's a good reason to balance the interest of fans and companies.

Anonymous said...

Anyone Know when the season 2 DVDs will apper? I reall don't want to wait a year or so for them, but I think this sieries would probably be worth it...

Is subbing really Illigal? I was allways under the impression, that since 1) it is non profit and 2) it is un licenced in the country of the target audience, that it would be legel. Also, what would be illeagle about distributing something that was recorded from Television?

Anonymous said...

I'm gonna write my thoughts through and I don'tcare if I'm gonna getbannedfrom this site. This really SUCKs! Why? Well that's because in my country it's not too easy to get yourhands in any anime dvd's. Only the most popular one's get here like Naruto or Death Note. I had been watching this anime from my own computer subbed by We Suck but however now I suddenly can't even dream about it. Should I go to load some raws?

Anonymous said...

Is subbing really Illigal? I was allways under the impression, that since 1) it is non profit and 2) it is un licenced in the country of the target audience, that it would be legel. Also, what would be illeagle about distributing something that was recorded from Television?

This will help you to better understand why fansubbing is illegal http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2003-06-08/3. That being said, whether fansubbing should exist or not, that's another matter.

Anonymous said...

I just want to post the conclusion from that link, in case people don't have patient reading the lengthy document:


Conclusion

Legally, there is no difference between "fansubs" and "bootlegs". In the eyes of the law, both could be seen as damaging to the market. Regardless of whether or not a title has been technicaly licensed in North America, it is illegal. Lack of enforsement of copyright laws in terms of unlicensed fansubs maybe the result of several different factors. Some companies may believe that the early introduction of the title to North America is beneficial. Others may simply tolerate a "fan-activity" as long as it does not become too damaging to sales. And yet other companies may not want to or be able to invest the time and money necessary to prosecute foreign violations of their copyright.

In the end, regardless of ethics, or motive, fansubs are technicaly illegal.

Anonymous said...

There have been many, many series that have have one season licensed and the remaining season(s) have gone unlicensed for one reason or another. We Suck's policy seems a little ridiculous to me, but I guess the Suckers are really, really afraid of getting sued by somebody.

Don't worry, people, another group will be subbing season 2, so calm down.

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Anonymous said...

"We Suck's policy seems a little ridiculous to me, but I guess the Suckers are really, really afraid of getting sued by somebody."

If they were afraid of getting sued, they wouldn't have bothered fansubbing in the first place, especially with the non-license of season 2. I suppose that's what all the non-buying, download-only folks are like: "Fansubbers that don't fansub licensed anime are scared of getting sued!"

Anonymous said...

hi~!
thanks for subbing Saiunkoku, it's really sad to see you drop this project though, but in the end, it is your own decision, and nothing anyone can say can change that.
By the way, this might seem like a stupid question but what i don't really get what this means:

"This does create an unanticipated situation with respect to the DVDSubber scripts, since the total price of the R1s is expected to be more than the price of the remaining R2s, but the first R1 will be released before the last R2, and the release of the first R1 is our timeframe for stopping distribution of the DVDSubber scripts."

First off, what are R1 and R2 DVD's? What's the difference between them? Also, what are DVDSubber scripts?
^^;

Anonymous said...

I think R1 is region 1 Japan/Europe which is probably unsubbed or equivalent to raws. You can buy these whenever available from Web Sites like cdjapan... think Paprika.

R2 I think is region 2 USA, which would come later subbed.

Why doesn't the company just use the fansubs in their R1 releases and reimburse the fansubbers for their work and free promotion, sell it from cdjapan et al, cut out the middle man, increase sales of region free players, the best of which are also Japanese.

Whether or not it is fansubbed or not is irrelevant (NGE) to profits as it is a fact that those who use the fansubs are the biggest customers of the licensed products.

Its like when the record company released a bad compilation of the Clash after they broke up called the Story of the Clash which proved
the story of the Clash was in the end, they fought the corporation but the corporation won.

Torgen said...

R2 are (for our purposes) the unsubbed Japanese DVDs. DVDSubber is a program that adds subtitles from an external file onto a DVD as it plays.

Anonymous said...

Thanks guys for all the hard work with Saiunkoku. Sad to see you guys stop, but it's not gonna kill me. Some people here should seriously learn to be more grateful.

Anonymous said...

Wow. All I can say is... Stupid decision, given the way you people do things. Why?

You're assuming Geneon will license season 2 just because season 2 picks right up where season 1 left off. That isn't the way business works. Sales for season 1 will determine if season 2 gets licensed.

So this creates a potential conundrum. What happens if they don't license season 2? Well, by that point in time, its safe to say you guys won't bother going back to the series and releasing fansubs, since by that point, most or all of season 2 will be available in Japan on DVD, at which time, you guys would at best turn to your "here's lame scripts for some sorry ass software, go buy the Japanses DVDs".

Bright decision, guys. Keeping doing stupid things like that and nobody is going to be downloading your efforts.

arcImpulse said...

To the anonymous just above me (bolding mine):

You're assuming Geneon will license season 2 just because season 2 picks right up where season 1 left off. That isn't the way business works. Sales for season 1 will determine if season 2 gets licensed.

What I had bolded, you said it in your own post - I would think that if Season 2 is not already licensed, Geneon would more likely license Season 2 if Season 1 sells well than if Season 2 is popular but, for some reason, people decide that they don't feel like paying for Season 1.

When we picked up Saiunkoku, it was not exactly a well-known or hyped series (unlike your Haruhis, Death Notes, Narutos or Bleaches). Now that it has attracted a U.S. licensor's attention - I think that we have accomplished our mission. Now it's up to everyone who has enjoyed Saiunkoku through fansubs to buy the R1s so that Geneon will consider it viable to license the R2s.


So this creates a potential conundrum. What happens if they don't license season 2? Well, by that point in time, its safe to say you guys won't bother going back to the series and releasing fansubs, since by that point, most or all of season 2 will be available in Japan on DVD, at which time, you guys would at best turn to your "here's lame scripts for some sorry ass software, go buy the Japanses DVDs".

Other than releasing our backlog of scripts for Saiunkoku Season 1 - because the total cost of the remaining R2s cost less than the total cost of the upcoming R1s for Saiunkoku Season 1 - We Suck's involvement of Saiunkoku is officially over as of Geneon licensing the Season 1 license.


Bright decision, guys. Keeping doing stupid things like that and nobody is going to be downloading your efforts.


We Suck has been doing "stupid things like that" ever since Torgen found the group along with MizuNoMike (former translator) and lavalyn 3 years and 10 months ago - well before I joined the group and well before the Saiunkoku anime aired in Japan. And we will continue to do things like that - we want to support the anime industry, promote anime that hasn't been licensed in North America, and provide translated script to people with R2 DVDs (which often do not come with English subtitles) so that they can understand and enjoy it. With that objective in mind, no amount of belittlement, cajoling or guilt trips will convince us to do otherwise.

And that is the final comment that I will make about this topic.

pilika said...

Hi! well what can i say? I know that you're right about the license stuff; although that thing makes me sad because like most all the people posting against your decision, we love your work and this anime too, I beg you to reconsider your decision; why I beg you for this for example in my country almost never they licensed some anime, and like why you said this serie is not that popular like naruto, inuyasha, bleach, etc.. most fansubs don't sub this anime, the only one that I know that is subbing it in my language is ANIMACO fansub, an they only have chapter 2 of the first season my point is that some viewers of this anime and also that do not understand japanese, entrust you to bring them this awesome project and work that you did... so please reconsider your decision of subbing the season 2 of this anime.
However if you reconsider it or not, i really apreciate your hard work in season 1 and for that i'll always grateful 'cause you bring us an awesome work to us for watching

Anonymous said...

that anime stuff is really expensive.. though i'm very sad you guys stop the saiunkoku II subbing... i love the show and I hope at least someone else will finish your work. thanks anyway for seison 1.

just another fan : ) said...

hmmm... i checked the list on AnimeOnDVD, i couldn't find saiunkoku anywhere under the licensed list... are you sure it's confirmed? : ) i understand many fans are frustrated over the decision to stop subbing, i also understand as fansubbers you have your ethics : ) therefore could you please verify if saiunkoku season 2 really is licensed? thanks. if it isn't, would you reconsider to start distributing the subbed version for season 2 please? thank you very much : )

x91 said...

lol so many opinions being stated..its like debating..anyways, thanks for your releases of season one of Saiun, i really appreciated. These people should be glad that u guys even bothered with the first season..i dont know why they are complaining so much. Wesuck were the only ones who even bothered completing first season, and even planned on starting the second, why is it so bad that geneon has licenced it? Isnt it good that they even bothered, seeing that not many anime series get licenced at all?

Everyone should be glad that there are fansubs, and appreciate what they've got..if you want it so bad, go and learn japanese if u can and download the raws, there are sites that would teach you these things and even try softsubbing.. Subbing, translating and timing takes a long time..I hate it how people even have the guts to complain. So what if they aren't subbing the second season, they've done the first, isnt that good enough? Get a life..there are other things to worry about. Get a job, earn the money and buy the licenced dvds..who cares if you dont have the patience..you have no idea how long it took the orignal company to complete and how much money they spent on each ep..and here u guys are complaining about the prices and time.

People who say that this group sucks just because they aren't subbing S2 but watches their releases are hypocrites and idiots.. give them the respect that they deserve. Be happy that you even had the previlige of watching season one subbed..

btw reading the manga helps, if you know where to find it..

thank you Wesuck ^_^ muchly appreciated by lots of viewers and i cant wait to purchase the dvds..on ebay cause they arent avaible here.. and i hope the creators and company responsible for saiun in japan recieve their respected amount of money for their hard work, and geneon who realised it was good enough to be licenced. Arigatou gozaimasu and ganbatte!

Anonymous said...

So...

Now that Geneon Entertainment (USA) is out of business (as announced on October 5, 2007), are you guys going to go back to work on season 2?

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<Torgen> it's like, if he said "wanna come over and watch the game?" I'd take a moment to realize that was an anachronism.
<arcImpulse> if you think he sounds weird... just wait till we get to Eccentric Kou
<arcImpulse> and you'd be like...holy anachronism~~
<Torgen> what, does Kou sound like a robot or something?
<arcImpulse> damn, I couldn't fool you, ne?